The responses consistent with crisis include;
shock: "I'm literally in tears watching this one
disbelief: "please check these videos out. it'd normally make me angry to see another person disrespect Ben Hogan and try to profit from his name but in this case i think it's so pathetic it's funny."
anger: "talk about raw meat thrown into the Colosseum...."
denial: "If this is true and it really is hogans secret. I stand to make alot of money. I have the goat hump pull move down!"
acceptance: "I found the 2 handed basketball pass interesting"
For sixty plus years Ben Hogan's Secret has been the single most central topic of conversation in golf. Golfers come and go, championships are won or lost, but the axiom that Ben Hogan set, an axiom which states that there is a secret superior way has persisted. Although Mr. Hogan defied discussing the subject of golf swing theory he eluded to its prevalence. In his book "Ben Hogan's Five Lessons; The Modern Fundamentals of Golf" on page 17 wrote, "As I see it, some measures long esteemed to be of paramount importance in the golf swing are really not important at all. On the other hand, certain other measures which have been considered to be of only secondary importance (or of no importance at all) strike me as being invaluable-"
In the subsequent lessons, Mr. Hogan laid out a series of fundamentals. Which, although greatly discussed, are entirely used by almost no one. Considering the pertinence of "measures which have been considered to be of only secondary importance" in Mr. Hogan's mind oughtn't the quest for Ben Hogan's Secret challenge the fundamentals which all golfers consider primary?
“Reverse every natural instinct and do the opposite of what you are inclined to do, and you will probably come very close to having a perfect golf swing.” Ben Hogan
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please check these videos out. it'd normally make me angry to see another person disrespect Ben Hogan and try to profit from his name but in this case i think it's so pathetic it's funny. i only had time to watch the ones on the basketball pass and the fade. i look forward to the others tomorrow.
i think his username here is bobbleberry or something like that.
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I am particular interested to learn about 'Hogans iPhone'!!
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I am particular interested to learn about 'Hogans iPhone'!!
I have Hogan's iPhone number. You can get the secret direct:
867-5309
Jenny will answer for Mr. Hogan. laugh.gif
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QUOTE (nickGT @ Feb 5 2009, 08:40 AM) *
I am particular interested to learn about 'Hogans iPhone'!!
I have Hogan's iPhone number. You can get the secret direct:
867-5309
Jenny will answer for Mr. Hogan. laugh.gif
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This one made my day...and night! Good night.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUFhcBCrc0o
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LoL at spaghetti arms.
Check out how much he pulled the 1st shot sad.gif
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjI1PEqgte0...feature=related
These videos make me feel good about my jaded swing.
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I'm literally in tears watching this one
LMFAO.
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LMFAO!! This guy is hilarious!
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LoL at spaghetti arms.
Check out how much he pulled the 1st shot sad.gif
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjI1PEqgte0...feature=related
These videos make me feel good about my jaded swing.
"reasonable shot, didn't fade as much as i'd like"
lol
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QUOTE (nickGT @ Feb 6 2009, 03:59 AM) *
LoL at spaghetti arms.
Check out how much he pulled the 1st shot sad.gif
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjI1PEqgte0...feature=related
These videos make me feel good about my jaded swing.
"reasonable shot, didn't fade as much as i'd like"
lol
He took his sweet time setting up at the trees too........I guess Hogan's angle was a goat humped, flip pull......aiming 'on angle' way right.
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He took his sweet time setting up at the trees too........I guess Hogan's angle was a goat humped, flip pull......aiming 'on angle' way right.
If this is true and it really is hogans secret. I stand to make alot of money. I have the goat hump pull move down!
Also i love how the ball's apex is about 15feet.
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http
://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1d2d5fX5238...e=channel_page
I found the 2 handed basketball pass interesting
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Wow.....this guy has to put down the crack pipe! If Hogan was still alive I am pretty sure he would track him down and rip his tongue out so he could never speak again. Just remember there is no cure for stupid and this guy is the poster child of that very true statement.
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you have to check out his website www.hogansangle.com he even has a sections to request a clinic.. cheesy.gif ....I am not joking. He listed his phone number on there too......should we call him???hahahaha
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Wow.....this guy has to put down the crack pipe! If Hogan was still alive I am pretty sure he would track him down and rip his tongue out so he could never speak again. Just remember there is no cure for stupid and this guy is the poster child of that very true statement.
Hogan would be a busy man the last 10 years
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I think you mean a 'wanted' man. wink.gif
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I'm literally in tears watching this one
LMFAO.
I think he's being so quiet because he doesn't want to wake his parents up!!
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QUOTE (martinez @ Feb 6 2009, 04:08 AM) *
I'm literally in tears watching this one
LMFAO.
I think he's being so quiet because he doesn't want to wake his parents up!!
busted2.gif
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LMFAO!! This guy is hilarious!
I think if Hogan was still alive he'd personally go to that guy's house and wrap a 1-iron around his head. cheesy.gif
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http
://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1d2d5fX5238...e=channel_page
I found the 2 handed basketball pass interesting
I agree he might have been onto something with that. But he's so concerned about protecting his "angle" secret there's no follow thru.
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LoL at spaghetti arms.
Check out how much he pulled the 1st shot sad.gif
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjI1PEqgte0...feature=related
These videos make me feel good about my jaded swing.
He just about knocks himself over in the finish. Did someone here just post a link on his Youtube thread to this thread... ooh no... he's coming here. Will he garner a mega thread?
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QUOTE (nickGT @ Feb 6 2009, 03:59 AM) *
LoL at spaghetti arms.
Check out how much he pulled the 1st shot sad.gif
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjI1PEqgte0...feature=related
These videos make me feel good about my jaded swing.
He just about knocks himself over in the finish. Did someone here just post a link on his Youtube thread to this thread... ooh no... he's coming here. Will he garner a mega thread?
I think we could have another mega thread if he sticks around....his username is bobbleberry...search his posts.
It would be a very different mega thread from the Sevam1 thread.
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I think we could have another mega thread if he sticks around....his username is bobbleberry...search his posts.
It would be a very different mega thread from the Sevam1 thread.
I think that ship has sailed here. Maybe he should give B-S-G or Golf Discussions a shot. laugh.gif
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That video reminds me a little of this Video !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPPj6viIBmU
May the Hogan Force BE With You !
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I think we could have another mega thread if he sticks around....his username is bobbleberry...search his posts.
It would be a very different mega thread from the Sevam1 thread.
I think that ship has sailed here. Maybe he should give B-S-G or Golf Discussions a shot. laugh.gif
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he PM'd me an analysis of 8irons swing. should i post it?
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I think we could have another mega thread if he sticks around....his username is bobbleberry...search his posts.
It would be a very different mega thread from the Sevam1 thread.
I think that ship has sailed here. Maybe he should give B-S-G or Golf Discussions a shot. laugh.gif
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he PM'd me an analysis of 8irons swing. should i post it?
More fuel on the fire? I would not post it. JMO
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he PM'd me an analysis of 8irons swing. should i post it?
No. I wouldn't. It was a personal message. What would that prove?
What are you all trying to prove here? laugh.gif
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he PM'd me an analysis of 8irons swing. should i post it?
No. I wouldn't. It was a personal message. What would that prove?
What are you all trying to prove here? laugh.gif
Jduncanm ...at the request of some members I will retract this post...reluctantly
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he PM'd me an analysis of 8irons swing. should i post it?
No. I wouldn't. It was a personal message. What would that prove?
What are you all trying to prove here? laugh.gif
Jduncanm ...take care of your own swing..you got problems being an arrogant new yorker with no golfing abilitiy...yes thats right NONE...i call BS on ya stories ...your 4 hnd would be 12 where Im from which means ya need 16 start playing against me....Dont care if I get a ban...go f yourself..used to that are you not
dude, calm down, the guy pm'd me analysis of your swing ... lots of people commented on your swing (mostly positive) in the hogan thread because you posted it there for all to see. i asked if i should post his analysis, people said no, so i didn't. what's the problem? not worth getting banned over and i really hope that you don't.
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Must be a full moon.... and talk about raw meat thrown into the Colosseum....
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he PM'd me an analysis of 8irons swing. should i post it?
No. I wouldn't. It was a personal message. What would that prove?
What are you all trying to prove here? laugh.gif
Jduncanm ...at the request of some members I will retract this post...reluctantly
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What are you talking about?
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